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Dear writers of Supernatural,

I get that your show is about two brothers, and that the nature of the show means that it's really hard for them to form meaningful and lasting attachments with anyone, particularly women. I can get behind that, really I can. It's fine, and I really love watching the show largely because of the great buddy chemistry between your main characters.

That being said, did you REALLY have to kill off the only two recurring female protagonists? The ones who were strong characters with minds of their own, who were professional and capable and managed to not be stereotypes? REALLY?

You have NO WOMEN left in your show. NONE. Apart from the evil demon ones, that is, and you've even killed off most of them.

I am not thrilled with this. It was a well-written show, don't get me wrong. I cried. It was well done. I just don't agree with your basic assumption that women shouldn't really play a role at all in your show. It's more than a little discouraging.

Date: 2009-11-22 05:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] montecristo.livejournal.com
Yeah! While we're at it, lets have more "strong male characters" in things like "Sex and the City" and "Golden Girls" etc.

Sometimes, during moments of quiet reflection, do you stop and consider that maybe the egalitarian sexual redistribution of simply everything is getting just a little bit overboard in the culture? Life and human associations are not about perfectly homogenous ratios of every imaginable token representative of some set of group identities — art occasionally reflects this diversity.

Date: 2009-11-22 07:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elanya.livejournal.com
There were always men on Golden Girls and Sex and the City. As long term reoccurring characters even :p

No I don't think it is going overboard to expect that a sex that represents half the people on the plant should have some significant contribution to everything :p

Date: 2009-11-22 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] montecristo.livejournal.com
And you have no idea how unrealistic that sounds....
There are plenty of organizations and events, formal and informal, which are strictly all male or all female.

Date: 2009-11-22 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elanya.livejournal.com
And yet, OMG, those people have spouses and parents and possibly sibling and offspring, not to speak of other relatives, friends, peers, etc that are of different genders! And holy shit- they even *interact with them* And who are important to how they decide things and understand themselves and their world! It's amazing, let me too you, the crazy things that go on in this world of ours.

(Phnee if you want me to stop I will -_-)

Date: 2009-11-22 11:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pasley.livejournal.com
I could hug you.
:)

Date: 2009-11-23 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jteethy.livejournal.com
Luckily, I have a new icon for just such an occasion.

Date: 2009-11-23 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elanya.livejournal.com
Yes yes, I know, just sometimes it is hard to hold back ;_;

From: [identity profile] montecristo.livejournal.com
So, every piece of art shall reflect the entirety of every facet of existence that you find comfortable for it to portray...

So, a story about a group of guys in Antarctica, (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084787/) who are menaced by an alien lifeform capable of doppleganger-like feats of morphing really just doesn't measure up or work as entertainment because it didn't go into the backstory of all of these people's wives, mothers, girlfriends, daughters, psychiatrists, etc....yeah, right. Not everything has to be about everything.

Look, I don't watch television, so I'm not going to get into a stupid debate involving dialog quotations and episode recitals but I can read the Wiki page on the thing enough to understand the creators' stated rationale behind the show. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural_(TV_series)) Face it, shockingly enough, there is a real honest to goodness show on television that just isn't about the women! Oh, the horror. It's a road show about a couple of guys! What a concept. Somehow, my pointing this basic fact out bothers you?

Great Hod, CSI: Miami has no strong, bisexual, octogenarian, differently-abled hermaphrodite main characters! How could there have been such an oversight — don't they know how many of these people there are in our socity! Obviously, it is a nefarious attempt by the series creators to marginalize these people! Call the press! Somebody somewhere is refusing to validate somebody's identity!
From: [identity profile] mousme.livejournal.com
Okay, cease and desist!

Take it to email if you must, but I will lock down this thread if I have to.

Date: 2009-11-23 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mousme.livejournal.com
Okay, kids. The "debate" is over. Take it to email if you want, but otherwise I'm locking down the thread.

Date: 2009-11-22 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mellybean71.livejournal.com
Sam Ferris had a really good post about her last day up on www.samanthaferris.net

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