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Have you gone and voted yet? Go! Exercise your civic right and duty! Shoo! Come back when you've filled out a ballot.

Re: Absolutely not.

Date: 2006-11-08 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mousme.livejournal.com
1- Can't view that page. Is it a protected entry?

2- You mispelled "cannibalistic," unless you're using a word I haven't heard of. ;)

3- There may not be a duty to participate (debatable), but there is a right, and it's one which should be exercised if you want to have any say in how your country's run.

Re: Absolutely not.

Date: 2006-11-08 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] montecristo.livejournal.com
1) Oops. Yup, it's a protected entry. Apparently, Noah is still a bit sheepish in his convictions, unlike me.

2) <voice="Don Adams">Would you believe it's a typo?</voice>

3) No, the system is off the rails. There is no right to violate the inalienable rights of others via a majority vote, and that's precisely what politics in the U.S. Federal Government has become. Even assuming that the Constitution lays down some sort of social contract (debatable) that document is a dead letter to the politicians in Washington. The government it founded is gone. When that happened or when the patient expired is a matter for forensic historians or other interested kibbitzers but it changes nothing today. The organization whose representatives and servants style themselves "The United States Government" is a fraud which only superficially resembles the organization chartered by the U.S. Constitution. If you believe any politician's oath to defend and uphold it one or both of you is naive. U.S. politics is nothing but expedient tyranny. Voting will not change that. The system needs to be scrapped, before it implodes or something else nasty happens. It cannot be reformed by the same process that allowed the Republic to decay into empire in the first place. Attempts at reform are fighting what can be thought of as a kind of socio-political entropy. There is a phenomenon analogous to the second law of thermodynamics at work here. You cannot make it go backward, just as you cannot make water flow uphill. The system needs to be taken down before it invites conquest or it collapses. Right now there is not enough wisdom circulating in the public to accomplish that end, so I devote my meager efforts to education, not political maneuvering.

Re: Absolutely not.

Date: 2006-11-10 02:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicvolkl.livejournal.com
You are right montecristo, The United States Corporate entity is much different than the Republic that was founded so long ago. We now live in a society based on debt and a monetary system that is bankrupt. Those federal reserve notes have nothing backing them. And as far as the election goes--I am happy that many of those right wingers got the boot but when it comes right down to it Elephants and Donkeys are just 2 sides of the same coin. Unfortunately the government wants you to think you are making a big differance by simply voting, when in reality it takes much more participation than that to make any differance. But that doesn't mean I can't keep beating my head against that brick wall. Check out givemeliberty.org to see how the ongoing battle is being fought.

Re: Absolutely not.

Date: 2006-11-10 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] montecristo.livejournal.com
I am familiar with Mr. Shultz, and I support his Quixotic quest. Nevertheless, I fear that his ultimate benefit to humanity will be to serve as a canary in a coalmine. I think the government will eventually crack down on him. There are some purveyors of truth whose truths are much too deadly for the State to ignore and much to dangerous for the State to allow their continued propagation. One of three outcomes is likely:

  1. The State destroys Shultz.

  2. Shultz's organization collapses, possibly after Shultz dies or otherwise becomes incapacitated and unable to manage it.

  3. Shultz destroys the State.


One of those must happen, eventually. Shultz's truths are the kind that will not permit the status quo to endure and the stress will grow as long as Shultz can continue to challenge the State. I don't see outcome #3 as being very likely. Still, I wish him luck.

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