mousme: A view of a woman's legs from behind, wearing knee-high rainbow socks. The rest of the picture is black and white. (Politics)
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There was a lot of screaming at the television tonight. A lot of it involved the words "LIAR!" and "OHMYGODDIDYOUHEARTHAT?!?"

I flicked between the U.S. debate and the Canadian debate. Palin made my ears bleed. "Nucular." Didn't the U.S. learn their lesson about letting people into the Oval Office who can't pronounce "nuclear?" (Yes, yes, I know it's an "accepted" regional difference, blah, blah, WRONG!)

The Canadian debate made me want to throw heavy things at the television. Not because of what was said, although there was plenty of screaming about that. No, what got me was that the moderator intervened, not once, but several times in Harper's favour, defending him against both Dion and Layton on at least two occasions that I can think of off-hand.

What. The. Fuck?!?

I don't understand why this happened. I don't understand why all five leaders didn't jump on him and tell him to shut the fuck up. I kept looking back at my mother and asking: "Why is he speaking? Why are they letting him speak? Why is he letting his lips flap with opinions about the content of the debate? Why?"

There are no words. I am incensed. So much for a "neutral" moderator this evening. The French moderator was fantastic, but sadly only French-speaking Canadians got to see what a well-run debate looks like.

Date: 2008-10-03 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karine.livejournal.com
He IS! I'd love to do the same. He was the BEST at talking to the camera Canadian People at Their Kitchen Tables.

It's funny, though. Everytime I watch a debate, I sort of expect it to inform people, to clear up some facts and confusion about things spouted in ads and campaign rhetoric, but all that ends up happening is that people get from debates what they WANT to get. You're a conservative supporter? Harper was strong and clear and held his ground with FACTS. You're anti-Harper? He was spouting lies and the others called his bullshit. You're a Liberal? Dion really shined and impressed people. You're a Green? GO MAY GO! Show them who's boss! You're a socialist? You sure are glad Layton's looking out for the little Working Family by punishing those Big Corporations.

My anti-Dion bias makes me reject any positive he might bring to such a debate. I'm not anti-Liberal, I'm anti-Dion. Same for a lot of people who are not Anti-Conservative, but they are Anti-Harper. So in that sense, these leaders can do no right.

This brings me to make this statement: There's no such thing as an objective voter. There are a lot of people who, when their mind is made up, will refuse to be confused with the facts. Am I wrong? Are the debates even useful in that sense?

Date: 2008-10-03 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ai731.livejournal.com
Maybe the debates are most useful for people who are undecided, who don't already have a strong affiliation with a particular party?

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