When did mousme appoint you topic cop on her journal?
Just because I feel like humoring you, I will point out that I was not indulging in a gun debate, per se, but was attempting to establish the parameters and terms of one. Our hostess asserted that the fact that humans did not have weapons when they came down from the trees therefore a "right to firearms" is not fundamental. I merely agreed, because the debate is one of self-defense, not the "naturalness" or "appropriateness" of firearms per se. Also, the debate about whether there exists some hypothetical middle ground is also not a debate about firearms or defense but a discussion of logic. One may be for or against the restrictions on weapons and agree that it is an either/or proposition — there is no "middle ground".
I will point out, not that it's any of your business, unless I am mistaken in my understanding of point 1, that our hostess herself opened the tangential discussion, which I again add, is a meta-topic, not the proscribed topic itself, just so we're on the same page, you understand.
Re: The fight is part of the human condition